Points of origin of the Dulce base rumors – – a self-guided tour in Albuquerque, New Mexico

(CLICK AND ENLARGE ABOVE – – three-tiered razor-sharp barbed-wire electric fences surrounding the former Manzano underground nuclear storage facility (base) – – photo by Norio Hayakawa)

Here is a self-guided, educational, whole-day  tour entitled:
A special, self-guided tour that explores the origins of the Dulce underground base rumors.
How it all started right here in Albuquerque, New Mexico

You should start from across the parking lot of the late Paul Bennewitz’s Thunder Scientific Laboratory, right next to the main entrance of Kirtland Air Force Base on Wyoming Blvd.:

From there, you should proceed on Wyoming Blvd. to Central Ave., making a right turn at Central Ave.
From Central Ave., you should proceed east to the Four Hills area:

(CLICK TO ENLARGE ABOVE — this is where the former Manzano underground nuclear storage base is located, very close to the Four Hills area where Paul Bennewitz‘s residence is located, right near the edge of the perimeter fence)….notice also that the new underground storage area (KUMMSC) has been set up since 1992, to the left.

( Go east on Central Avenue all the way to Tramway Blvd. – – make a right at Tramway Blvd. –
– make a right at 4 Hills Rd. – – make a right at Stagecoach Rd. – – Stagecoach Rd. will become Wagon Train Dr. – – you should stop at the first fenced area of former Manzano underground nuclear storage base, right across from the condos where Paul Bennewitz residence is located )

(Paul Bennewitz’s residence is located inside the white-walled condo community – – white condos with red tile roofs) – – from his second floor deck, with a great view of the Manzano Base, Paul Bennewitz claimed he used to see lights floating above the Manzano base from around 1979 t0 1981:

(CLICK AND ENLARGE ABOVE – – A security warning sign located inside the fence, further west of this area):

From there you should drive to the location from where you can clearly see three tiers of razor-sharp electric fences surrounding the base.
All you have to do is drive further east on Wagon Train Dr. until you get to the dead end, which is a cul-de-sac right next to a nature walk park.
After parking at the cul-de-sac, start walking towards the nature walking trail area on the right side. You will already see a fence, along with other 3 fences inside.
You will hike for about 10 minutes alongside the fence until you get to the sign that says “You may be under video surveillance”.
That will be the end of this portion of the tour.
Not to worry. It’s just a leisurely walk alongside the fenced area.
You will not get arrested by security personnel unless you try to climb over the fence, even though you will not be electrocuted by this first fence.
It’s the other 3 fences that you can see inside that are lethal:


(Occasionally you may see a white security truck patrolling on the dirt road right next to the fence, but not too often. You may also see a security personally patrolling on a bicycle once in a while. This is not like the perimeter area of Groom Lake Road of Area 51 in Nevada where you constantly see the security trucks.)

Please make sure you saw the actual location from where Paul Bennewitz claimed he witnessed “lights” hovering over the Manzano underground nuclear storage base from around 1979 to 1981.

You should read on the Internet how and why Bennewitz’s focus of attention started, thereafter, to shift from there to some unusual events he came to believe were taking place 120 miles north, in a tiny sleepy community of Dulce, New Mexico.

You should also read about how Bennewitz met New Mexico State Patrol officer Gabe Valdez in 1979 at Albuquerque Public Library where a public meeting on “cattle mutilations” was convened at the request of State Senator Harrison Schmitt. (Officer Gabe Valdez had already been investigating many cases of “cattle mutilations” in and around Dulce, New Mexico).

You should also read about who Richard C. Doty really was – – a self-claimed
“government UFO disinformation agent” who simply happened to be working at AFOSI at Kirtland when Bennewitz reported his sightings to the base.

The popular speculation is that both William L. Moore and Richard C. Doty, together, or if not, individually, fed disinformation to Paul Bennewitz allegedly under the delegated authority from the CIA or NSA.

But this could likely be nothing more than their grandiose claims that they were officially assigned this task by these governmental agencies.


Watch the following short video:

Once again, I hope you saw the area adjacent to three tiers of razor-sharp barbed-wire electric fences surrounding the former Manzano underground facility (base) located at the eastern-most section of Kirtland Air Force Base.

Here is the video surveillance warning area:

And finally, you should drive to Mesa del Sol and see the best viewing location of the entire Manzano-Sandia base, Albuquerque’s military test base since 1947 – – Click and enlarge photo below, courtesy of Carl Willis, and also see the video below:

Here are the directions on how to get to this area:

After finishing the Manzano underground nuclear storage base area tour, go back to Central Ave., take the I-40 Fwy West, then take the I-25 South, exit at Rio Bravo exit, go left and make a quick right at University Blvd. and go all the way till the very end of the University Blvd. and you will see a glass building. You will be parking at the eastern side of the glass building.

By the way, this exact location happens to be the Ground Zero impact area of a hushed up incident that took place in 1957 – – CLICK AND READ:


And, from this location, you can clearly see Project Starfire facility from a distance:



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4 thoughts on “Points of origin of the Dulce base rumors – – a self-guided tour in Albuquerque, New Mexico

    • Shawn, this is all within the city limits of Albuquerque. Most of the things I am talking about can be seen from inside your car.
      However, we will be doing a very easy, 10 minute hike in a small public park in Four Hills.
      It’s only less than 10 minutes from the parking lot. Any child can do it.
      Also, when we get to Mesa del Sol, you can see practically everything from the parking lot.
      However, we will also do a leisurely hike for about 10 minutes from the parking lot.


  1. Wow, I wish I lived in your area Norio. What a wonderful thing to share your expertise with the public like that. The photos and/or films Paul took of the crafts he witnessed there are incredible. Thankfully I saved copies from Greg’s website when it was still up (dulcebase.com) and they still amaze me. I really miss the evidence page he had on that site as well. It contained a wealth of great info, as you know. Perhaps in the future it can be reposted somewhere.


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