UFO community credibility in the toilet – – Alien Metal Alloys Hoax

by Tim Doyle, May 11, 2018 – – UFO SEEKERS – – https://ufoseekers.com/2018/05/11/ufo-community-credibility-in-the-toilet-alien-metal-alloys-hoax/


In December, 2017 the NY Times published an article claiming the Pentagon was looking for alien spacecraft on Earth.  The revelation came from the VP of Security at a book company that publishes UFO related content, Luis Elizondo.  Yes, that’s the same Luis Elizondo.

Having just become an employee of a publicly traded book company that publishes UFO books, two weeks before the company’s initial IPO stock release was set to close, Luis Elizondo told the NY Times he was the former Director of a Pentagon Study searching for alien spacecraft on Earth.

The NY Times ran full steam with the story.

Former Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency’s Advanced Aviation Weapon System Application Program (AAWSAP), Luis Elizondo, threw the NY Times under the bus.

Alien metal alloys from an alien spacecraft were not stored in a Las Vegas warehouse.

They never existed at all.

For years, this supposed program supposedly investigated reports of unidentified flying objects, allegedly according to Defense Department officials, interviews with program participants and records obtained by The New York Times.  It was supposedly run by a military intelligence official, Luis Elizondo, on the fifth floor of the Pentagon’s C Ring, deep within the building’s maze:

A private contractor is mentioned and performed work for the contract, program, or study  (whatever the individuals involved are calling it).  That contractor was Bigelow Aerospace headquartered in Las Vegas.

The NY Times goes on to state the following in their article:

Under Mr. Bigelow’s direction, the company modified buildings in Las Vegas for the storage of metal alloys and other materials that Mr. Elizondo and program contractors said had been recovered from unidentified aerial phenomena.

In that statement the NY Times points to information relayed from “Mr. Elizondo and program contractors.”  The “metal alloys” were “recovered from unidentified aerial phenomenon”, or in laymen’s terms, possible alien UFOs.


The AAWSAP program is also referred to as the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).

It has since been revealed by The Black Vault, “Aerospace” was actually “Aviation”.

The NY Times also failed to put “foreign” in the name of the program.

It was a foreign aviation identification program looking for advanced foreign aircraft and drones.

All of this had to be uncovered by media personnel in the UFO Community as the NY Times seems to have skipped fact-checking in their editing process.


The alien metal alloys story was then given traction from other main stream news agencies.

In an article published by KLAS-TV in Las Vegas, I-Team  (headed by debonair raconteur George Knapp):

Mystery metal studied in Las Vegas – – the journalist states the following:

“…do government scientists have a piece of a flying saucer? … According to a New York Times story, scientists in southern Nevada had a chance to study a piece of mystery metal which had some unusual properties.

Nick Pope, a former official with the British Ministry of Defense study of UFOs said he believes such material does exist:

‘…multiple sources have confirmed to us that there was a weird piece of something at the Bigelow plant.'”

The narrative of alien metals alloys from a flying saucer was born.

It also seems to be confirmed by the former British MOD UFO Study Director!


Canadian UFO Researcher, Grant Cameron, was also instrumental in building the Alien Metal Alloys story.

In a 2018 news radio interview with Dave Scott on Spaced Out Radio, Cameron stated he was invited to handle the Alien Metal Alloys.  Cameron said on Spaced Out Radio, the metals would be presented to him and others at a secret meeting being hosted at a location somewhere just north of San Francisco.

Alien Metal Alloys Story Dies In 2018

Now fast forward to 2018.

Luis Elizondo has formally discredited the Alien Metal Alloys story in a statement run in a MUFON Journal.

Elizondo states the NY Times writers misrepresented the existence of alien metal alloys recovered from unidentified aerial phenomenon.

He says that :

“…it was an honest attempt by someone who needed to take a little bit more complex discussion and dis-till it down to a more consumable format.

So, it was never about unidentified metal alloys.”

Scientists reading the NY Times article wouldn’t know the difference between metal alloys and meta materials/isotopes, so they just went with alloys?

The leakers behind the NY Times article should have explained their story better, or at least told the truth.

Now that individuals behind the so-called Pentagon UFO Study story, have been unable to produce Alien Metal Alloys to back up their initial claims in the December, 2017 NY Times article, the story has now evolved to a new insinuated narrative.

Elizondo is quoted as saying:

“…discovery of certain meta materials in which their isotopic ratios at the molecular level are so unique and so precise that they are not found naturally on this planet… the origins of those materials remain unknown.”

So they’re from an alien planet or spacecraft?

Did someone forget to ask that question?


The writers given access to Elizondo are ruining the UFO Community and its credibility.

Literally destroying it for fame and views.

They insinuate extreme views to perpetuate a hoax created by UFO celebrities and UFO book publishing company.


The Pentagon confirmed, the NAMES of two programs: AAWSAP and FAATIP.

AAWSAP was a weapon system program and FAATIP was looking for foreign military aircraft.

Just because Bigelow Aerospace investigated UFO Sightings, did not mean the US Government was looking for alien spacecraft on Earth.

The language used in the programs clearly explains THEY WERE LOOKING FOR FOREIGN AIRCRAFT AND FOREIGN MILITARY THREATS.

That’s the problem with the UFO Community and its celebrities.

People want “Disclosure” so bad, or  they’re willing to accept opinions as fact, no matter the consequence.

In fact the UFO Community never even discusses the alien metal alloy story anymore to ensure no damage to the credibility of the individuals involved.




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