Is the UFO phenomenon real? – – a rational discussion on February 4, 2019 in Rio Rancho, New Mexico, USA

ARE UFOs REAL?– – Have they visited Earth in the past?

Why do people keep seeing them?

Join Norio Hayakawa, MSC member and UFO Investigator, as he facilitates a rational discussion on the topic of Unidentified Flying Objects, separating facts from fiction.

Norio has been investigating UFOs for over 60 years.

Monday, February 4, 1:15 p.m. in the Dining Room at Meadowlark Senior Center in Rio Rancho, New Mexico…. NO FEE.    Limit: 40.


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Like the overwhelming majority of the world’s astronomers and scientists, I do not discount the possibility that we are not alone in the universe, even though we still have no definite evidence for it.

At the same time, however, the overwhelming, vast majority in the scientific community have been skeptical when it comes to UFOs as conclusive evidence that we have been (or are being) visited by physical aliens in physical alien spacecraft of any kind.  As far as I am concerned, the bottom line is that we have not yet been presented with any single globally accepted physical, tangible, solid, as well as irrefutable documentary evidence of such, so far.

And yet the UFO phenomenon seems to be real, according to researchers such as Dr. Jacques Vallee.   Just like Dr. Vallee, I too believe in the reality of the UFO phenomenon.  Please click and read:


This is why I believe that Ufology is an important study and will continue to be so as long as the “UFO phenomenon” is not conclusively solved.

As I have stated time and time again, the subject of “UFOs” is the most important subject matter that I can think of because it involves everything and even seems to affect one’s worldview.

It is a fascinating study about human psychology and the role of “beliefs” that poses the question “what is reality?”

“UFO beliefs” have also become a social, cultural and psychological phenomenon.  Some even say that such beliefs are much needed for some folks who may feel the urge to believe in something or something that gives them a sense of “hope” (in tandem with religious beliefs), especially in these troubling, uncertain age of global economic, social and political crises.

Add to all this the role of the Internet.

The Internet has revolutionized how information as well as misinformation can be accessed instantaneously.

For many folks among a segment of the society, the Internet has become a cesspool of totally unfounded “facts” created by hucksters and hoaxtsers so much so that even college-educated folks seem to fall into it.  Such hucksters and hoaxsters have become so skillful in their “art forms” that it is becoming harder and harder for many folks to distinguish what is true information and what is misinformation.

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The “History” Channel mangles “PROJECT BLUE BOOK Episode 1” – – January 9, 2019, excellent comment by Robert Sheaffer

by Robert Sheaffer – –     (Robert Sheaffer is a well-known, highly respected writer who writes for a skeptical blogsite about UFO claims, aliens, etc.)


So on January 8 we finally saw the much-awaited first episode of “PROJECT BLUE BOOK” on the Channel that once showed History.  It was expected to be sensationalized, and poorly-acted.  Those things it was.

Where it exceeded expectations, however, was in the degree that it distorted the facts of what was, in fact, a historical incident, freely mixing sensational but fictional elements with a classic UFO incident.  Public discussions of this case will now be hopelessly polluted by the made-up elements that people will now firmly believe to be part of the actual story.

The first episode is titled “The Fuller Dogfight,” an obvious reference to the “classic” UFO case of the Gorman “dogfight” of 1948(In fact, statements made at the end of the program confirm this.)  

This refers to a famous case in the Blue Book files occurring near Fargo, ND in which an experienced WWII pilot reported what seemed like a “dogfight” with a lighted object.  Serious UFOlogists generally accept that the pilot George Gorman, while an experienced combat pilot, became disoriented while attempting to approach a lighted object at night, and reported it as performing impossible feats.  The object was apparently a lighted weather balloon that had been recently launched in that area.  Some will argue that it is not plausible for an experienced pilot to become so disoriented, and imagine a slowly-moving object making incredible maneuvers.  They forget that J. Allen Hynek himself wrote,  “Surprisingly, commercial and military pilots appear to make relatively poor witnesses”  (The Hynek UFO Report, 1977, p. 271).

This ought to bring into mind another “classic” UFO case, this one tragic – the death of the young pilot Frederick Valentich in Australia in 1978.  His attention fixed on some unidentified object – very likely Venus, that he believed to be orbiting his position – Valentich apparently became disoriented, fell into a ‘graveyard spiral,’ and crashed into the ocean.  A chilling video from the Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association, 178 Seconds to Live, warns about the dangers of pilots becoming disoriented when flying at night or in times of poor visibility.  It is relevant to investigations of both the Gorman and the Valentich cases (and probably to the crash killing JFK Jr. as well).

Here is an off-the-top-of-my-head list of falsehoods shown or implied in “The Fuller Dogfight“:

Gorman shot at the object.  False.

Gorman was sent to the infirmary for an extended period of time with psychological problems.  False.

Gorman collided with the object, which damaged his plane.  False.

The UFO took control of Gorman’s plane.  False.

Gorman somehow anomalously hears a radio station during the incident, and became obsessed with the song.  False.

Hynek traveled to Fargo to investigate this case on-site.  False.

Indeed, Mark O’Connel, author of the first biography of J. Allen Hynek, noted on Facebook that in the episode “Hynek drove from Fargo, ND to Columbus, OH seemingly in a matter of minutes.  It’s a 15 hour drive today, but back then there were no interstates.”

Hynek and his Air Force “handler,” a pilot, went up in a plane to try to duplicate the encounter.  The plane crashed, but both survived.  This is beyond ridiculous.

A “Man in Black” was watching the investigation, uselessly, from a distance.  The stories about the Men In Black originated with Albert K. Bender in 1953.

And even as we read this, more absurdities and anachronisms in the program are being spotted, and posted on the Internet.  In a few days the list will no doubt be much longer.  Even “Disclosure” champion Stephen Bassett is concerned about this, gently but firmly noting that.

it is important to publicly point out the simple fact there is quite a gap between the theatrical presentation of Hynek’s life and the real life.  It would be helpful if a fact vs. fiction page of quality was developed and updated as the series moves forward.  Researchers and others might prepare for how they will respond to questions from the more confused viewers who watch and then Google.

And if a UFO program is bad enough to worry Stephen Bassett, it has got to be really bad!  If the story were entirely fiction, there would be no problem.  The problem occurs, however, because “PROJECT BLUE BOOK Episode” references real people, real organizations, real incidents, but in a grossly distorted and misleading way.

Let me also say, as someone who has spent a lot of time listening to Hynek speak in person, that Aidan Gillen is not convincing as J. Allen Hynek.  He does not look like Hynek, he does not sound like Hynek, he does not act like Hynek.  And he doesn’t even have Hynek’s trademark goatee.  I think Gillen ought to listen to some of the many YouTube videos showing Hynek’s TV appearances, to practice and make his act more convincing.


I agree with a comment made by Jon Nichols:

“I am genuinely mystified as to how they were able to take a real person like Dr. Hynek and make such fiction out of him.  Did his family somehow have no legal say?”



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A letter of rebuttal from Cynthia Drayer, ex-wife of the late Phil Schneider

by Cynthia Drayer – December 29, 2018,  in response to an article I wrote on November 3, 2017:  PHIL SCHNEIDER’S DULCE BASE “DELUSION”


“So I felt that I needed to clarify some information about Philip Schneider and myself  ( I am his ex-wife, Cynthia).

I knew Philip formally beginning in 1986 through the Oregon Agate and Mineral Society.  He was receiving SSI, which is for disabilities.  Philip initially tried to get regular social security benefits, but he could not prove his work record.

Apparently he worked under the wrong social security number for most of his work life, and it was only discovered when he applied for SSA.  I found paperwork in his apartment after his death that proves that most of his work record was under the wrong number.  But because the number was being used by a living person, there was little I could do after his death.  The work that was on this “other number” was Morrison Knudson, Coast Guard, and military work.  So you will not find most of the work he did under the current social security number in which the SSI was given.

Because we had a daughter together I did try to prove his work records after his death so that she might receive death benefits from her father.  This did not happen.  I seem to be pegged as a money hungry lair, which I am not.  I was simply a single parent with  two children to raise, one of which was Philip’s daughter.  As the executor of his estate, it was my duty to pursue possible benefits for his daughter, who was the only heir to his estate.  I did find a very old life insurance policy which stated that Philip had two brothers.  He always stated that this was true, and yet he had only one brother “alive” when I met him.  As far as Philip’s education, you can find his picture in a Duke University yearbook.

You mention information about Ron Rummell, who was the best friend of Philip’s.  If you look at the police report, as I have, you will see that the gun that was used in his death did not have blow back blood.  This would mean that after he was shot, someone cleaned the gun.  I’m pretty sure that if you shoot yourself in the mouth, as Ron is suppose to have done, then you would have blood on the gun…..He had a child, he was excited about his “ALIEN DIGEST”, he was receiving world wide acclaim for the information that was in the digest, he was about to write a book.  His “father in law” was the publisher of his digest  (he was not married to his daughter, but they had the child together).  Based on having met Ron first hand, I do not believe that he shot himself.  He was “murdered by suicide” as was Philip  (This was during the Clinton Administration and there were plenty of government officials that died of unusual circumstances).

When Philip’s father, Capt. Oscar Schneider M.D., died, Philip came into possession of materials, i.e., letters and photos from the Navy.  This was my father-in-law and I met him before he died.  The original letters where still in envelopes with old stamps and the address matched the letters.  In them it proved that Oscar was involved in examining deceased crew members from the Philadelphia Experiment.

They were being held “against their will” in a psych ward run by the military in Virginia.  Some of them managed to escape, as is mentioned in the letters.  Also, there were Glossy original photos from the Navy (they were stamped on the back with numbers and typing).  These photos were from “Operation Crossroads” which is when the Navy dropped the Abel and Baker atomic bombs.  There were ships at different distances, with sheep and goats, to see what kind of radiation exposure they would have.  The men went on these ships after the explosions and were exposed to all of the dust.

Oscar later had a brain tumor removed, probably because of this exposure.  Oscar had a Cosmic Clearance, which was “FOR YOUR EYES ONLY” top secret.  It was a NATO label.  Philip told me that his Rhyolite clearance was also a NATO clearance.  Philip got his work because of Oscar’s long time work in the Navy.

His brother George Schneider, was also in the Navy, and his sister, Polly, worked for the CIA.  Even his mother worked for RKO, which I have heard had some secretive activity.  In the photos from the Bikini Atoll there are UFO’s lifting out of the lagoon after the first bomb went off in Operation Crossroads.  You could see the water dripping off the ships, escaping the explosions.  The head of Operation Crossroads was General Joseph Stillwell.  Our daughter just happened to be attending a school in Portland, Oregon with a young boy named Joseph Stillwell.  I called the grandfather who was caring for this young boy to ask him if his grandson was related.  It turned out that this grandfather was the nephew of General Stillwell and had actually taken many of the photos from the plane as the bomb was going off.  He verified that there were UFO’s going out of the water and he took the photos to prove it.  His uncle was also on the plane.

When Philip started talking out about UFO’s around the United states, on TV and Radio, people would come up to him with secret stuff, sometimes with photos.  One man brought to Philip a photo of the Gunderson Freight Cars that are manufactured in Portland.  In this particular freight car there were 115 pairs of “shackles”, which could only mean that they were meant for people and not for cars.  After the Morrow Building bombing in Oklahoma City, Philip gave a copy of this photo to the militia in Oklahoma.

When there was a Senate hearing to talk with the militia  (who were being accused of possible involvement)  they asked the senator what this picture was of.  They immediately closed the hearing.  Philip believed that the government was opening up FEMA camps for 15 million people after “martial law” was announced.  The freight cars were for people that did not want to go voluntarily.  It also is, according to the Roper Report, about the same number of people that have been implanted with alien devices or have been abducted by Aliens.   So YES, Philip did sometimes use other peoples information, because like any good speaker he did “research”, and he was given materials to talk about because others did not want to be involved or were afraid of consequences.

Philip was very upset about the missing children in the United States.  He stated that 1 million children disappeared every year and many were never found.  He suspected that because their disappearances were clumped around military bases and deep underground mountain bases that it involved sinister activity with either aliens or Satanic rites.  With the current news today about child trafficking, he may have been right on the button.

There was the author of “Pandora’s Box” who went with Philip to the Denver Airport.  It was with the help of Philip that many symbols were interpreted.  His father was a 32nd degree Mason.  He had many books about the Mason and Sacred Geometry.  He believed that the Denver Airport was a deep underground mountain base.  Those books, by the way disappeared after his death.

I knew the physical and mental condition of Philip.  He was paranoid, and I think with good reason.  He had cancer that was slowly eating away at his bones.  He had a home care housekeeper through the State of Oregon.  He had Multiple Sclerosis and would have flare ups.  Sometimes he looked just fine, maybe with a body brace, but other times he was in a wheelchair.  I saw the wound in his shoulder which was a gun shot wound.  He showed it to me soon after he received it, and later in his autopsy photos you can see the wound in his left shoulder.  He had over 500 shrapnel wounds on his torso with scars from burns.  He had a penis that had been sliced all the way from the base to the tip.  He had a major wound from a tracheotomy and he had a cut that ran from his throat to his belly button and which continued below his ribs on both sides..  During the summer time it would break open and ooze.

He had to care for his wounds to prevent infection.  This was a constant problem.  He even showed his scars down his chest in one of his videos.  So yes, he had major injuries.  He also had three fingers missing from his hand.   When I gave birth to our daughter in 1987, he had an operation to repair his throat and chest in the same hospital just one day later.  We were released from the hospital the same day.

In one of Philip’s lectures he talks about how cocaine was brought back into this country in the coffins of men who had been killed during the Vietnam War.  He talked about how the drugs were then distributed to targeted populations by the government to support the “black budget”.   About 3 months after his death a reporter in Los Angeles proved that this was true.  The war on drugs wasn’t against the drugs, it was against the cartels that brought the drugs into America and were in “competition” with the government drugs.

I have written many articles about how Philip died and why I believe it was a murder and not a suicide.  Like Ron, Philip was about to write a book about his knowledge with the help of a friend who lived in Seattle, Washington.  In fact he had just gotten back from his visit when he died in his apartment in Wilsonville, Oregon.  He died 1/10/96 but his body was not found until 1/17/96.

His body was green and swollen.  The first responders, which were his friend and the landlord believed he had died of a stoke.  The sheriff released the body without the Clackamas County Coroner looking at his body (which was against the law).  It wasn’t until I questioned the funeral director that he took a look at the body.

It was then discovered that he had a surgical tube wrapped around his throat three times and tied in the front.  In order for this to happen as a suicide, he would have to wrap the hose around with missing fingers and extensive pain in his shoulders, and then knot it.  He then sat on the edge of his bed, and suffocated, falling into his wheel chair. He did not hang himself with the hose, he just sat there.  This is not a normal type of death.  In one of his lectures he stated that if you hear he has committed suicide you will know that he was murdered.

I asked the medical examiner to hold blood samples and urine samples for later testing.  They refused to test them for a person who died of a “suicide”.  I was told that they would be held for one year.  Ten months later, when I had located a facility that was willing to get involved in the test, the samples had disappeared.  Why did I think that his hands had initially been tied?  Because his hands at the wrist were at an odd angle where he laid.  If you would raise his arms to his back (he was laying on his front) the wrists would be at the correct angle to being tied.

It is important to note that many items were missing from his apartment.  All of the notes and photographs from his lecture, all of his high math and masonic books, all of the alien specimens, all of his notes for his book  (even I had written a chapter),  a box of mineral specimens, and his wallet was missing.  The police were at first interested in the wallet, but then it “showed up” the next day.  Many valuable items were all there, jewelry in a nightstand, gold coins in the closet, money in his wallet.

They had already released a body illegally, and the crime scene had already been disturbed.  It was just easier to call it a suicide.  His brother was supportive to the idea that Philip had been murdered, and he was a Multnomah County Sheriff.  Also, Philip had many medications he could have taken to have a “peaceful suicide”, he even had a gun.  But instead he chose to die of suffocation, in a sitting position….I don’t think so.

So was Dulce true?  I have to admit that I have no definitive proof that this particular event occurred.  I know that Morrison Knudsen was a contractor for underground mountain bases, and I can prove that Philip did work for them.  So many other things he talked about were true and accurate.  So why not that?  He would talk about the machines that would bore holes and create a surface automatically, of the fast moving monorail underground.  When asked if he ever rode one, he said no.  Now if he was lying, why would he say he never rode one.  A liar would probably enjoy giving details of a ride from one coast to another in a fast moving mode of transportation.

When I first met Philip I noticed that there was an unusual truck with a wood canopy.  It had a Canada license plate.  Everywhere we went, I would see this truck.  Someone wanted us to know that we were being followed.  My phone would click when I talked on it, and I eventually went to the FBI.  The click’s stopped.

After I had the memorial service for Philip I took the people who had attended to my home.  I wanted them to have the remaining notes and paperwork so that I would not be “bothered”.   When I arrived I could tell that items had been moved.  My house had been entered.  I gave the people the paperwork, and as they were leaving, a black helicopter with no markings was hovering over my house.  A person with binoculars was looking out the door, at the people and their cars.  The lady that had moved into the house across the street when Philip first moved in to my home, was now moving out after his memorial service.  (A watcher perhaps?)  OK, I might be paranoid too.  But if you had been close to two people who died under unusual circumstances, you might be looking over your back too.”



1) From Charles Gilbert Wright of New Jersey:

“Yes, this information  (Norio Hayakawa’s information)  agrees with what I found out from Phil’s brother and sister, and friends of Ron Rummel, and other friends of Phil’s.  Thank you for sharing. It is so easy for information to circulate round and round on the internet.

It was back in the late 1990’s when I called Phil’s brother George on the phone who was working then at the Portland River Patrol and he had his sister, Polly send me a letter also.  The Schneider family came from Russia in the late 1800’s and were Jewish, and the family was deeply hurt when Phil lied and said his father was a German U-Boat commander during WWII, when in reality his father was a medical officer in the US Navy.  His uncle is an attorney in Portland. 

I think I did this research in 1996, 22 years ago, so a whole new generation is now reading all this stuff that has taken on a life of it’s own.  Separating the BS from the truth is difficult, but well worth it.  Norio, we moved back to NJ in 2012.  Good to hear from you again.”

2) From G. Clinton, his one-time roommate:

What I know about Phil Schneider:


“This morning in the state of boredom I decided to look up and see if I can find anything about people I used to know on Google.

Imagine my surprise to find that there was a cult of Phil Schneider who I knew very well in 1977 though 1980.

I moved to Portland, Oregon in 1977 unemployed and very short on funds.  I moved into a very cheap rooming house

Shortly after I moved in Phil Schneider moved in.  It didn’t take me very long at all to realize that he was a liar.  And I thought he was mentally ill.

His missing fingers:

He told me that he had lost them when he was working in eastern Oregon as a lineman when he had some sort of mishap on a pole  (frankly I no longer recall the details; it has been nearly 40 years).

His chest wound:

I took him to the hospital.

One day as I was talking to other roomers in the common room, Phil came down the stairs with blood on his shirt saying he’d been shot.  A story he quickly changed to somehow being inflicted by a passing car having losing a snow stud which struck him in the chest causing the wounds.  No one present believed him, of course, but it was certainly not the time for discussions of his credibility.  I took him to the hospital.

After a short time one of the ER doctors came up to me and asked if I had any influence with Phil.  I said, ”not really.”  The doctor said that they would like to keep him for a psych evaluation but had no grounds to do so.  I was asked to try to convince Phil to voluntarily submit.

At this point and having my own suspicions I said to the doctor, ” you suspect it’s self-inflicted?”  The doctor said, yes.

I did talk to Phil a little bit, of course he refused.

I wish I could remember which hospital in Portland it was.  Unfortunately I just don’t.  But there should be records.

This happened in possibly late 77 more likely 78 perhaps even early 79.

There is more I could talk about.  But none of it would be particularly germaine.

By the time I parted company with Phil, entirely, probably sometime in 1980, I was of the very solid opinion that Phil was disturbed and probably a danger to himself but not others   (I should note here that I’m completely unqualified in any clinical sense to say these things.)

Now I know that no one has any particular reason to give my testimony any credibility.

But, there it is.  I hope that this may help slightly for some people to be suspicious of anything he said.  I certainly was and am.

Phil Schneider was not a horrible person.  He was certainly at some level delusional.  He was for a short time a very flawed friend of mine.”



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Why I believe in the reality of the UFO phenomenon – – but this may surprise you



I have answered the following questions more than a hundred times so far – – my answers are always the same:


My answer:

“The UFO phenomenon seems to be real.”


My answer:

“It seems to me that alien abductions are absolutely real to the experiencers”.


My answer:

“Are we talking about sentient, physical, extraterrestrial biological entities?

If that is the case, the UFO phenomenon does not seem to constitute conclusive evidence of ET visitations by physical, sentient, extraterrestrial biological entities in physical extraterrestrial spacecraft of any kind, so far.”


My answer:

We just do not know yet.  – – and, this is the best answer we can give for now.

Of course everybody, including myself, thinks it sounds ridiculous to believe that we are the only instance of physical, sentient, intelligent biological life anywhere.  I couldn’t agree more.

But for right now the answer is “We just do not know yet“.

But is “life” limited to just physical, sentient, intelligent biological existence in this cosmos?

Maybe there could be countless number of sentient, paraphysical entities of extradimensional origin in this huge cosmos – – that could include both the benevolent and the malevolent kinds.


“The UFO phenomenon appears to me as a temporary, paraphysical intrusion into our physical dimension by an unknown intelligence or unknown sentient entitities, paraphysically materializing themselves to a pre-selected observer  (or a group of observers)  and presenting to the observer as a physical extraterrestrial phenomenon and visitation.

The pre-selection also seems to include a particular location as well as a particular time.

The phenomenon seems to be able to materialize and de-materialize at will.  However, the phenomenon does not seem to be able to survive in our physical dimension except for a few seconds or a few minutes at a time.

Some researchers claim that the phenomenon seems to be able to temporarily affect our physical parameters  (such as radar, etc.).

Yet the phenomenon also seems to be incapable of being photographed with clarity, if at all.

And on many occasions, it seems to me that these “UFOs” only deceptively appear  (to the observer)  to be utilizing some type of a propulsion system as they seem to take off into the distant sky at an unimaginable rate of speed.

Finally, by  ‘phenomenon’  here,  I would like to include both the  ‘craft’  as well as the  ‘entities’  and their seemingly paraphysical capabilities.”


By the way, Area 51 in Nevada and Dulce, New Mexico are two of my favorite topics.

I can confidently state that there seems to be no evidence of any UFO or “alien” connections to Area 51 in Nevada  (which I have continuosly researched since around 1988).

To me, Area 51 is a very important US Air Force’s research, development and testing complex for advanced military weapons systems integrated with avionics and aeronautics and continues to expand every year.

It involves our hard-earned tax dollars and rightfully deserves its role in protecting our nation from global threats, domestic or foreign.

As far as Dulce is concerned  (which I have also continuously researched since around 1988)  there is no evidence at all that there is a physical US/Alien collaborative biological underground facility or base in Dulce, New Mexico.



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Excellent review of new, meaningless movie – – BOB LAZAR, AREA 51 AND FLYING SAUCERS

Watch the above YouTube piece – – definitely, an excellent review of new, meaningless movie BOB LAZAR, AREA 51 AND FLYING SAUCERS.

A meaningless movie based on Lazar’s same old, same old dubious and unsubstantiated claims with nothing new to show, and peddled by debonair raconteur George Knapp who made a secondary career promoting Lazar’s nonsense.



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