Nothing crashed outside of Roswell in July of 1947

But something did crash around June 14, about 35 miles northwest of Roswell and it wasnt’ a flying saucer.

(Stanton Friedman – – propagator of the “alien saucer crash” myth)

Here is the TIMELINE of the events that took place:

June 14  (Saturday):

(10 days before the world had ever heard of “flying saucers” or “flying disks”), a rancher by the name of W.W. (Mac) Brazel  (pictured below) and his 8-year old son, Vernon, were about 7 or 8 miles from the ranch house of the J. B. Foster ranch, which he operates, when they came upon a large area of bright wreckage made up of rubber strips, tinfoil, a rather tough paper and sticks.

There was no sign of any metal in the area which might have been used for an engine and no sign of any propellers of any kind, although at least one paper fin had been glued onto some of the tinfoil.

There were no words to be found anywhere on the instrument, although there were letters on some of the parts.  Considerable scotch tape and some tape with flowers printed upon it had been used in the construction.

(J.B. Foster Ranch was located about 30 miles southeast of Corona, NM – – the ranch was located about 35 miles northwest of Roswell).

At the time Brazel was in a hurry to get his round made and he did not pay much attention to it.

June 24  (Tuesday):

The famous Kenneth Arnold incident in Washington state:

July 4  (Friday):

Brazel, his wife, Vernon and a daughter, Betty, age 14, went back to the spot and gathered up quite a bit of the debris.

July 5  (Saturday):

Brazel first heard about the flying disks, and he wondered if what he had found might be the remnants of one of these.

July 7  (Monday):

Brazel came to Roswell to sell some wool and while here he went to see sheriff George Wilcox and “whispered kinda confidential like” that he might have found a flying disk.

Wilcox got in touch with the Roswell Army Air Field and Maj. Jesse A. Marcel:

Marcel’s commander, Colonel William Blanchard  (pictured below) ordered Marcel and counterintelligence officer Sheridan Cavitt out to Brazel’s ranch.

Marcel and counterintelligence officer accompanied him home, where they picked up the rest of the pieces of the “disk” and went to his home to try to reconstruct it.

On viewing the wreckage, Cavitt immediately thought it probably came from a weather balloon, but Marcel had other ideas.  Marcel had a pre-conceived notion that it must have been part of the flying disk that he had heard about.

July 8  (Tuesday) :

The public information office at the base made the announcement that they had recovered a flying disk (approved by Col. Blanchard).  This created newspaper headlines – – it was a sensation!:

At the intervention of Brigadier General Roger Ramey  (pictured below)  who had also inspected the wreckage, a press conference was soon held that included Marcel.  The army announced that the fuss was over nothing more than a weather balloon, pieces of which were duly paraded for public display:

Prior to the press conference, a weather officer by the name of Irving Newton (pictured below) remembered seeing pieces of what he recognized as a weather balloon laid out in Ramey’s office:

In 1990s, Newton told investigators:

“I remember Major Marcel chased me all around that room…..He kept saying things like ‘Look how tough that metal is….look at the strange markings on it’….While I was examining the debris, Marcel was picking up pieces of the radar target sticks and trying to convince me that some notations on the sticks were alien writings.  But I was adamant that it was a weather balloon with a RAWIN (radar) target.  I think he was embarrassed as crazy and he would like to do anything to make that turn into a flying saucer” – – from Mysteries, Myths, Mayhem and Money chapter of Gary Bates’ ALIEN INTRUSION.

July 9  (Wednesday):

Ramey’s statement appears on ROSWELL DAILY RECORD newspaper:

July 9  (Wednesday):

W.W. (Mac) Brazel’s statement of regret appears on ROSWELL DAILY RECORD newspaper:

Marcel didn’t agree with this conclusion, probably because this was unlike any weather balloon he had ever seen.

It was not just a “weather balloon”.  It was a top-secret program called Project Mogul, which was finally and officially revealed in 1994):

(Other high altitude reconnaissance balloon projects from the era included Project Skyhook, Project Grandson, Project Genetrix and Projct Moby Dick, pictured above)



More than 30 years after the incident, a few die-hard believers in the ‘alien saucer myth’ started questioning again the explanation that it was a “weather balloon”.

(And they were right, it was not just a “weather balloon”.  It was a top-secret program called Project Mogul, which was finally and officially revealed in 1994).

A book entitled THE ROSWELL INCIDENT came out in 1980, co-authored by Charles Berlitz and William L. Moore (who later on identified himself as a disinformation agent).  It became a best-seller:

(Above – – William L. Moore, self-claimed disinformation agent)

In order to write this book, the authors claimed they interviewed some of the so-called “witnesses” to this incident.  They also delegated a few researchers to search for any other “witnesses” in the Roswell area.  Also, independent from them were a few other researchers (such as Stanton Friedman, pictured below) who, on their own, attempted to look for witnesses:

The big problem was that they interviewed folks more than 30 years after the incident took place.  And many of the so-called “witnesses” were nothing more than second-hand and third-hand “witnesses”.  Many of them were willing to be interviewed for the chance to be in the “spotlight”, so to speak.

There were also some late-comer “witnesses” to this circus, such as Glenn Dennis (pictured below) who, in 1989, began to claim that he was working as a mortician the day the “saucer” wreckage arrived and that he knew a nurse who supposedly assisted at the “alien” autopsies, but her name has never appeared on any records.  (Glenn Dennis became the founder of the UFO Museum at Roswell):

The total accuracy of the so-called “witnesses” (more than 30 years after the incident) was highly questionable, particularly Jesse Marcel who was a believer from the get-go and whose unfounded beliefs had been properly over-ridden and dismissed by his superiors.

Despite Marcel’s  frequently changing his testimony about the Roswell debris throughout the Roswell fiasco, in August, 1948, he was transferred to the Strategic Air Command, where he was eventually put in charge of a Pentagon briefing room for the Air Force of Atomic Energy (AFOT-1).

In July, 1950 he returned to Houma, Louisiana and opened a small-town TV repair shop.

When he was released from active duty, his commission (as a Lieutenant Colonel) was transferred to the Air Force Reserves.

He eventually received his full discharge in 1958.

(In 1978 Stanton Friedman found Jesse Marcel in Houma, Louisiana where he had retired and was still running the radio-TV repair shop)

Jesse Marcel, Walter Haut, Frank Kaufmann and Glenn Dennis.
Walter Haut vouched for these two men, who were later determined to be telling tall tales and lies about their involvement.
Was it all about promoting the UFO Museum?.



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Dulce, New Mexico family victimized by “domestic terrorism”

by R. Edmund Gomez – – Dulce, New Mexico:

“Today, June 13, 2017 marks the 41st anniversary of the first livestock mutilation we experienced on our ranch in and around Dulce, New Mexico.

This is the day that changed not only my life, but that of my family as well.

We did not choose to enter into this evil phenomena as those who have chosen to do so, in most cases profiting, without assuming risk of any kind.

We were brought into this dilemma by direct criminal loss of our livestock.

In the subsequent years from 1976 to 1985, dad and I lost 20 lactating beef cows, their calves, two yearling bulls and a yearling filly to these mutilators.

Since we were doing business with my grandfather, replacement of the cattle was imminent.

In addition, we lost 19 two-year old pregnant heifers that suddenly just died over a two week period after the Jicarilla Tribal Police spotted an unidentified (military?) aircraft hovering over our herd on April 8, 1982.

Lab reports were inconclusive and only indicated the presence of an unknown strain of Bacillus sp. (a possible cousin to anthrax?).

Total losses at that time mounted to over $100,000; over $225,000 in today’s market.

Over the years, many law enforcement personnel as well as self-proclaimed animal mutilation experts have claimed to have solved the case.

To date, not one has moved forward with a criminal investigation case to prosecute the domestic terrorists that have plagued our family and the many other ranchers and farmers in the US who have fallen victim to these cowards.

Many of these individuals, who have taken the oath “to protect and serve”, have only profited from our misfortune and have downplayed the severe financial losses and emotional strain we have endured over these past 41 years, as well as our civil rights being violated in unspeakable ways.

We have become “the victims” of domestic terrorism and continue to do so!

Throughout these years, we have also been infiltrated by “investigators” who we thought were honest and sincere, but later turned out to be again, self-interested, for one reason or another, and in my opinion, several were and have been placed by “unknown” entities to gather information or provide disinformation.

Based on our trust in humanity and our humble upbringing, we invited many of these individuals into our homes and shared our thoughts to later find that we had been used and abused and continue to be abused.

I have found it amazing how these individuals who arrived within the past few years question the authenticity of the Gomez family experience and have replaced truth with fantasy in an effort to move their agenda and profits forward.

Several of these individuals have had the audacity to overlook the true victims of the livestock mutilations in Dulce and replaced them with unsubstantiated accusations and fictitious victims.

What I have learned over the years is to trust no one and be extremely cautious of those that show an uncanny personal interest in you and the Dulce phenomena.”


It seems very likely to me that the government desperately tried to turn this whole matter  into an “alien conspiracy” scenario.

But realists such as the Gomez family, kept their belief that it was the government, and not the aliens who were the perpetrators of these criminal activities.

Was the government during those years conducting some type of biowarfare experiments?

Or, was the government monitoring the radiation levels and effects on certain, pre-selected cattle in the that area?

We do not know the answer.

By the way, here are some very important points noted by Greg Valdez, author of  ‘DULCE BASE‘  in regards to the cattle mutilations in Dulce, New Mexico, from the mid 1970s to the early 1990s:

“If the government went to local ranchers and purchased cattle to use for testing purposes, the first question any rancher would ask is, “Why are you testing my cattle?”.

And more importantly, “Who contaminated them?

It would have caused a tremendous uproar in the surrounding communities.

The government has a long history of incompetent decision making, but they are smart enough to avoid a lawsuit, especially when the evidence shows that they created the contamination in the first place (in this case in Dulce, New Mexico), i.e. Project Gasbuggy  (the Atomic Energy Commission’s experiment involving underground detonation of nuclear device 22 miles southwest of Dulce on December 10, 1967, ostensibly to ease the flow of natural gas in the region but which later apparently caused radiation leaks in the surrounding environment, affecting animals and even some residents, including the Dulce area).



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Another UFO religious cult exposed – – the background of Marshall Vian Summers

(CLICK AND ENLARGE ABOVE – – photo of Marshall Vian Summers)


The New Message from God, a new religious movement from the United States, originates from the teachings and pronouncements of Marshall Vian Summers, who is called “The Messenger.”

Summers and his adherents represent that he is a prophet on the order of the Buddha, Jesus, and Muhammad, in receipt of a revelation over a period of 30 years which he has recorded on tape and which, transcribed, approaches ten thousand pages.

Key components of this ‘revelation’, attributed to ‘divine sources’, include warnings of an incursion upon Earth called the Intervention, and pronouncements about the future involving global upheaval and interaction between the human race and extraterrestrials which, Summers claims, are from “the Greater Community.”

To promote these ‘revelations’, in 1992 Summers founded The Society for the Greater Community Way of Knowledge, trading as The Society for the New Message from God, a 501(c) religious non-profit organization which is both publisher of Summers’ books and recordings and a religious order.

The New Message Sanctuary in Boulder, Colorado, USA, a gathering place for The Society, broadcasts services via the Internet and since 2012 has presented its materials on line as part of a free school claiming 2,352 participants from 104 nations.


Here is the central core of his teachings – – – his mumbo jumbo rants – – – (and request for donations):


(Above, Marshall Vian Summers)

Facebook personality who went by Trevor Wozny (who had claimed to be a self-proclaimed “rational Ufologist” under the title of The Angry Ufologist) has recently become a convert to Summers’ cult.

His ramblings can be seen at


by Robert Todd Carroll, THE SKEPTIC’S DICTIONARY:


Marshall Vian Summers has been claiming to be a prophet of some god who sends him messages via what he calls “the Angelic Presence.”

He says he’s been a prophet since 1982 and has written down more than 9,000 pages of the usual spiritual pabulum, updated to fit the times with messages about saving the planet from ecological disaster and invasions of evil aliens in UFOs.

In typical vague prophetese, Summers says:

“A Greater Darkness is in the world. It is unlike anything that humanity has ever faced before. Contact has begun, but it is Contact with a dark purpose. In addition, we are facing converging waves of great change—climate change, environmental deterioration, diminishing food and energy resources and the growing threat of conflict and war.

My message has come from the Angels of the Creator who are urgently attempting to enable humanity to recognize this and to prepare for encountering these new realities with wisdom and sobriety. These are the greatest events in human history, but humanity is unprepared.”

It seems humanity is always unprepared for what lies ahead, yet it also seems that a good portion of humanity is always prepared to open their hearts and pocketbooks to prophets of doom who claim a connection with something “great and mysterious.”

Such messages seem to resonate with people who aren’t comfortable in this world, which they find overrun with evil and lacking in compassion. We better change our ways or we’re doomed. If we change our ways, though, we will be part of great New Age:

“The New Message from God is a genuine communication from the Creator that has come at a time of great change, conflict and upheaval. Received over a 30-year period by the Messenger Marshall Vian Summers, this revelation is not based upon any existing religious tradition or spiritual teaching. The New Message honors the enduring truth in all the great Messages that the Creator has ever given to the world yet it is unlike anything that has been revealed to humanity before. It is a new revelation about the real nature of human spirituality, the great change that is coming to the world and humanity’s future and destiny within a Greater Community of intelligent life in the universe.”

Wouldn’t you like to be part of this Greater Community? Remember, this is a “genuine” revelation.

How do we know that it’s genuine?

Summers says he knows it because he has no doubts.

That might be good enough for him, but shouldn’t the rest of us be given some sort of sign that he’s not just making up this stuff?

Others, he says, will know it’s genuine if they just read the messages; they will recognize “the Knowledge” and “know that I am being genuine with you.”

What if we won’t bother to read the messages because we’re pretty confident that Summers is either an outright spiritual fraud or another in a long line of deluded people claiming to get messages from beyond?

What if we do read the 9,000 pages and come away convinced that Summers is deranged and just passing on his fantasies mixed in with messages religious people like to hear, especially religious people with deep concerns about UFOs and government conspiracies to keep us in the dark?

I guess those of us who are skeptical of Summers’s claim that he is a messenger from some god are doomed.

Maybe the evil aliens will take us up in some sort of negative rapture or whirlwind.

Who knows? But we can be sure we will not be invited to be part of the Greater Community and its bounty of intelligence, wisdom, joy, and all things great and good.

I have been unable to find out anything of interest about Summers’s life before he started claiming he was a prophet.

One source, Bret Lueder, has posted an undated interview he did with Summers.

The only bit of personal biography revealed, though, is that Summers was born on January 28th, 1949; was raised as an Episcopalian in Berkeley, California; and later moved to Colorado.

He says he was just living his life as a spiritual teacher in California as a pioneer of Inner Guidance Training, making music recordings and being a loving husband and father when he was contacted by what he calls the Angelic Presence.

He says that he has since moved to Colorado and has written 20 books from this presence with his first book, Steps to Knowledge, being given to him for transcription over a 12-day period in December of ’89.

The Inner Guidance Training referred to was trademarked by Summers in 1990 and described as some sort of educational service that provides “spiritual instruction and text and manuals used therewith.”

The rest of the interview is about the Way of Knowledge (“ancient spiritual teaching that focuses on the greater intelligence that we all possess that resides beneath our analytical and thinking minds”) and his book about UFOs and aliens, good and bad.

I couldn’t think of a better description for this “greater intelligence” than that it lurks beneath our thinking minds. The good aliens are described in the title of his book: Allies of Humanity. The bottom line?

There is an unquestioned belief that the aliens are enlightened beings; that they are here to help us, enhance our genetic makeup, to uplift us, to somehow shepherd us to some kind of higher state. But the Allies say very clearly that this is the deception.

Is Summers a fraud or deluded?

Personally, I lean toward the latter, given the years that he has zealously devoted to writing these messages and spreading his words.

What about the possibility that he is genuinely getting messages from some god via some sort of angelic presence?

Well, the likelihood that there are any gods or angels is negligible, despite the almost universal superstition regarding spirits and invisible beings, both good and evil.

So, the likelihood that the messages Summers gets are from a spirit is on par with the likelihood that James Van Praagh, John Edward, or the thousands of other “spiritual mediums” are getting genuine messages from dead people’s spirits.

Will some people find comfort and solace in the messages of Summers?

Of course. Some may even find them to be inspiring.

Does that mean they were genuine? No. Is the Society for the New Message from God, founded by Summers in 1992, a cult?

I don’t know, but one sure sign those considering joining Summers should look for is this: are you being encouraged to separate yourself from your family and friends who don’t accept the authenticity of the prophet?

If you are, run for the exit.

Whatever comfort you are given by the charisma, joy, love, caring, and seeming wisdom of Summers or others trying to recruit you, it will not last, it is not genuine, and you will eventually regret the day you gave your mind over to a charlatan.

In any case, I’d be wary of someone who says that everything happens according to some god’s will, but many people aren’t living according to the plan; so, the god chose me to reveal to the people how to get back on track.

Frankly, the revelation shouldn’t be necessary if everything happens according to the god’s will.

I’d also wonder why any god would pick an Episcopalian from Berkeley to be the New Messenger.

Did the god pick him at random? Was the choice meant to reveal the god’s sense of humor? Do we have to read his messages in reverse to get the real “truth”? Is there a hidden code in the messages that only special people can figure out? In the end, I’m left bewildered and somewhat saddened by contemplating what kind of void Mr. Summers must fill to have followers around the globe.

For your viewing edification: Patricia Summers on Walking With the Messenger (She tells us her husband is “stable” and “sane.” I’m not so sure about her, though.):



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UFO Culture is here to stay in America

(Above – – courtesy of Mysterious Universe)

by Norio Hayakawa, June 3, 2017:

I sometimes regret the fact that in the past few years I have allowed myself to become a “black sheep” of the family of a part of a larger “UFO community” by what some may describe as my “outrageous, lop-sided opinions and rantings” on Ufology , i.e., my somewhat skeptical attitude on the whole subject matter.

I have been cussed at and shunned by many die-hard “believers”.

Perhaps it is my fault.

I have been ridiculously categorized as a debunker, and in extreme cases I have been accused as being a paid government shill, just because I expressed my somewhat skeptical opinions.

I have also been accused to trying to be a Phil Klass-wanna-be.

In fact, I am not even qualified to be a debunker.

Ufology is a fascinating subject matter and will continue to be so, even though I personally have recently expressed my desire to slowly phase it out from my interests, unless some earth-shaking UFO incident takes place and UFOs become a mainstream concern.  (LOL!!)

In my view, Ufology is not so much a study on UFOs or Aliens, but rather, a great study about humans.

I will no longer call it a “sub-culture”.

It has firmly established itself as part of America’s culture.

But I am not a bad guy at all, in my heart.

All of you have been so kind, courteous and so friendly to me.

I will keep my friendship with everyone, regardless of the differences of opinion.

Life is too short.

I may only have a few more years to live.

There is no guarantee whether I  (or, for that matter, you)  will live to see the light of day tomorrow morning.

So with this, everyone, let’s continue our friendship.

For those who care to see my rantings, they’re here:

An interesting billboard that was constructed on I-25 and Paseo Del Norte in Albuquerque a few years ago….the billboard is no longer there:



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New book “Phenomena”, an excellent study on America’s UFO Culture – – haunting photographs of America’s UFO believers

(CLICK ABOVE FOR ENLARGEMENT – –  John Lear, dozing off)

by Zio Baritaux, January 13, 2017:


For their new book, Phenomena, Copenhagen-based photographers Sara Galbiati, Peter Helles Eriksen, and Tobias Selnaes Markussen traveled to the epicenter of extraterrestrial encounters: the Southwestern United States.

Their route took them to peculiar places such as Area 51 and Rachel, NV, Sedona, AZ, and Roswell, NM, where they met and interviewed UFO witnesses and believers in the unexplained.

“I was abducted by aliens two times 25 years ago,” said one man in the book, who asked not to be named.

“The first time, they put an implant behind my ear; six months later, they took the implant out.”

Other believers featured in the book include Charlie Hall, who says he lived with tall, white aliens for two years; John Lear, a former CIA pilot turned conspiracy theorist; and Miesha Johnston, who claims she has given birth to 13 alien-human hybrid children in space.

Though their subjects’ stories are bizarre, the photographers present the people in the book with care.

Their beliefs are not questioned, and their portraits are gentle.

“For years, believers of extraterrestrial life have been subjects of ridicule, and with our project, we wanted to give these people the benefit of the doubt,” explains Peter.

“What if they are right?”

In addition to the stories and portraits, the exquisite cloth-bound book — designed by Ironflag Studio and published by André Frère Éditions — includes mellow, dream-like images of UFO attractions and evidence (such as a suitcase holding pieces of metal found at the Roswell crash site in 1947).

“But it is not propaganda for or against,” Sara clarifies.

“It’s an examination of the need for human faith.

And through extensive research, and collected data, we have strived to create an understanding of the modern human’s eternal search for purpose in life.”


Out of more than 30 people interviewed for this book, I was the only one who was not categorized as a “believer“:


The description of myself in the book simply states:  Norio Hayakawa calls himself an ‘unorthodox ufologist and activist’.  He’s had a lifelong fascination with UFOs, and he’s the director of a group called the Civilian Intelligence Network.”

(Which is just fine with me….LOL).




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“Aliens are here, dressed as nuns”, says a former Minister of Defence of Canada

Paul Hellyer, a former Minister of Defence of Canada, had little to do with UFOs while he was in the employ of the Canadian government.

It was after he had long retired, that he began to devour UFO books and finally became a believer.

(Although,  according to researcher Chris Rutkowski, Hellyer, in 1967, ceremoniously opened the UFO Landing Pad at St. Paul, Alberta.  Rutkowski also stated that he located a document describing a Ministerial Inquiry into what would today be called crop circles, also in Alberta, Canada, in 1967.)

And now Hellyer is in high demand as a UFO conference speaker, since he was a former Minister of Defence of Canada.

“Aliens are here, dressed as nuns”, say a former Minister of Defence of Canada:


It seems that there are always a few in the crowd  (actually in every walk of life – including military personnel, pilots, generals and even astronauts)  who sometimes make nutty-sounding, rather outrageous remarks or statements  (mainly based on some pre-conceived personal beliefs of theirs, religious or not).

Yes, this includes even some policemen, pilots, generals and even astronauts whom we hold in high estimation.

Why is this?.

It is simply because they’re all humans, with pre-conceived notions of things or worldview.

School teachers, professors, scientists and even some well-respected politicians are no exceptions. This is why I feel that simply quoting from pilots, generals and even astronauts when discussing such things as UFO sightings should not be the final word.

After all, all humans are imperfect when it comes to personal, visual perceptions of things.

Jesse Marcel  (of the Roswell fame who kept changing his story)  had a history of embellishment and exaggeration.

He had a penchant for exaggerating things while repeatedly trying to “write himself” into the history books.

Astronaut Edgar Mitchell was the founder of the Institute of Noetic Sciences   (exploration into the nature and potentials of consciousness using multiple ways of knowing, including intuition, feeling and the senses).

The list goes on and on.

The bottom line, however, is that the final evidence will only come when entire mankind is openly contacted by physical ETs, if ever.



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“Aliens are here on Earth”, says a professional Ufologist

(professional “Ufologist”, Stanton Friedman)

by Jon Austin, EXPRESS – – March 27, 2017:

A scientist has issued a chilling warning that aliens are already here on Earth and are biding their time before unleashing a full reveal.

Stanton Friedman,a nuclear physicist, is convinced there have been multiple visitations of Earth by aliens, who will ultimately quarantine us here on Earth.

The Canadian claimed there “was not a shadow of a doubt” the existence of intelligent aliens was being covered up by global governments as part of a so-called truth embargo.

Mr. Friedman, 82, is a top Ufologist, who has been at the heart of investigations into the mysterious Roswell alleged UFO crash of 1947, after previously working on classified projects for American aerospace corporation McDonnell Douglas.

Speaking to DAILY STAR, he said: “We have enough to prove without a shadow of a doubt that planet Earth is being visited [by aliens].

“This is kept from people because who would want the world in upheaval?

There would be mass panic and distress.

“If they (the aliens) want to make themselves known, it’s easy – they will.”

He said recently declassified CIA files on UFO sightings were all part of the proof.

Mr. Friedman says aliens actually want to prevent humans colonizing space and will ultimately quarantine us here for the greater good to prevent mankind travelling.

He said: “I think they are here. I think they are here to quarantine us, keep us from going out there.

“With our track record – we’re evil.”

But Mr. Friedman claims our governments are trying to take advantage of aliens being here by obtaining their technology to achieve world supremacy.

He said: “The first country to replicate [alien] technology will rule the roost if they can build it.

“It’s political too – the US says ‘are we ready to put out anything if the Russians don’t or the Chinese don’t’.”

Mr. Friedman, who has written extensively on Aliens and UFOs, has described this culture of secrecy as the world’s “Cosmic Watergate” – a reference to the President Nixon cover-up scandal in the 1970s.

He now tours the globe giving talks on his beliefs at universities and conferences:

Some skeptics are not convinced by his arguments, however.

One poster on the forum wrote: “Recently I was looking at some of Friedman’s arguments for UFO’s and against skeptics.

“When he says he debunks the debunkers he makes sweeping generalisations and says skeptics ignore some ‘big’ cases even though many of them were looked at by skeptics.

So my question is what’s his point?

He only uses old cases that were mostly debunked and just tries to discredit skeptics rather than provide non-speculative evidence.




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