Phil Schneider’s Dulce base “delusions”


As I stated elsewhere many times before, I would definitely like to believe in the reality of the UFO phenomenon and that the phenomenon seems to continue to be reported from time to time even in places like Dulce, New Mexico, which is no exception.   As of yet, we do not know the true nature of this strange phenomenon.   But I do not believe in the fabricated tales of con artist Phil Schneider and his claims about the Dulce base whose physical existence has never been proven beyond a shadow of doubt.


The numerous lies and fabrications of Phil Schneider are so multiple and so atrocious that they need to be exposed.

There is a website called Phil Schneider Memorial.

They’re actually calling it a website for a murdered patriot.

If Phil Schneider is a patriot of anything, he’s a patriot of disinformation.

He started giving lectures from 1995, mainly among “survival” groups.

He usually started off his talks by saying that the major reason for going public was that his best friend, Ron Rummel, was murdered in a park and had been in the Air Force as an intelligence agent.

Ron Rummel had never been in the Air Force, as far as we know.

Rummel was found in a park in Portland in 1993.

The police had determined that he had committed suicide by shooting himself in the mouth with a pistol on August 6, 1993.

Ron, Philip and 5 other individuals had been collaborating on a little magazine called “The Alien Digest”:

(CLICK ABOVE FOR ENLARGEMENT – – Creston was Ron Rummel)

It was starting to get a fairly wide circulation when Ron was found in the park.

Phil Schneider, with his one-track conspiracy mind-set, immediately decided that his friend had been murdered.

Because this story was posted when the Internet was just beginning in the ‘90s, it has taken on a life of its own and been copied and circulated over and over.

Circular knowledge is not knowledge at all, it is just repeating what someone else says.

By the way, the proof of Schneider’s lies in the math.

Take Phil’s age and his time on various jobs he claimed to do, certainly try and consider time at college for his supposed degrees, which never existed anyway so scratch the college time and you’ll see that he would have been 17 years old when he went to work for the government.  Phil stated that he worked in Dulce in 1979.

He claimed he was one of three people to survive the 1979 fire fight between the Greys and the US intelligence and military at the Dulce underground base.

Phil was found dead in January of 1996, supposedly due to what some one-track conspiracy-minded folks like to claim as an “execution style murder”.

The  Clackamas County Coroner’s office finally concluded that it was suicide.

Schneider was not murdered.

Schneider had suffered from multiple physical illnesses  (brittle bone syndrome – osteoporosis, cancer and self-inflicted injuries.)

He had intense chronic pain all of the time.

But above all, Phil Schneider suffered from self-inflicting, self-mutilating psychological disorder, mental instability and delusive illness.

Here is his Social Security disability income (SSI):


An autopsy was performed at the Multnomah County Medical Examiner’s office in Portland, Oregon by Dr. Gunson, and she determined that Philip had committed suicide by wrapping a rubber catheter hose three times around his neck, and half-knotting in front.

The late Gabe Valdez who was the State Patrol Officer in charge of the Dulce area for many years, also stated that Schneider’s death was a suicide, after examining the autopsy report:

(ABOVE – – an excellent book written by Gabe Valdez’s son, Greg Valdez, in which he exposes Phil Schneider as a fraud)


Cynthia Schneider Drayer was the person who actually came up with the murder theory.

Cynthia didn’t get this idea from actual evidence but from her mother, who had a psychic vision and concluded that Phil was murdered.

Cynthia also claimed that her dad, Frank Martain, was killed in Albuquerque in 1952 as part of another conspiracy involving the government.

Her inconsistent story also claimed that Phil’s hands were tied when he was found dead and then later claimed they were by his side.

Her story has many inconsistencies, making Phil’s involvement in Dulce extremely unlikely and not credible.

Cynthia Drayer quickly started requesting money in her correspondence with Gabe Valdez because, she claimed, Phil did not have life insurance.

Cynthia has provided much of the rumors about Phil.

There are claims that Phil was killed with piano wire, but the autopsy report clearly indicates that he died with surgical tubing around his neck.

The piano wire theory was part of the psychic vision and not actual evidence.

Take caution with any website or person claiming he was killed with piano wire, because he was not.”



Phil Schneider did not tell his bogus story till 1995.

Phil had never heard of “Project Gasbuggy”.

(ABOVE – – schematic drawing of Project Gasbuggy, conducted by the Atomic Energy Commission on December 10, 1967, about 22 miles southwest of Dulce, New Mexico to ease the flow of natural gas in the area)

Yet Schneider claimed to be a knowledgeable “geologist” and explosive expert.

Schneider was never able or willing to prove his allegations, such as showing the entrance to the Dulce base or where tunnels he drilled were located.

Phil Schneider repeated information about underground bases that was already in print.

Phil Schneider quoted “word for word” material already written by other researchers:

(ABOVE – – another con artist Cherry Hinkle who initially went by “Anne West”)

(ABOVE – – the alleged Thomas E. Castello, whose existence as a Dulce “base” security guard has never been documented and proven – – the Dulce “base” itself, physically, has never been proven to have ever existed)

(ABOVE — the late Paul Bennewitz of Albuquerque, New Mexico who first became convinced in 1979 of the existence of the Dulce underground base under the Archuleta Mesa)

(ABOVE – – John Lear, propagator of “alien myths”)

(ABOVE – -another con artist, Al Bielek)

(ABOVE – – BRANTON, a.k.a., Alan B. deWalton, author of “Dulce Wars”)

(ABOVE – – Tal Levesque, a.k.a., Jason Bishop III, early promoter of the Dulce Base myth and originator of the underground tunnels map of the United States):

(ABOVE – – Bob Lazar, who was said to have manipulated his buddy John Lear‘s insinuation of 1989 that in 1975, there was an altercation between U.S. Delta Forces and alien entities in a U.S. underground facility, suggesting that it was under Groom Lake/Area 51)


In other words, Phil Schneider practically “hijacked” Bob Lazar’s dubious insinuation of 1989  that in 1975 there was an altercation between a U.S. elite military force and alien entities in an underground base, suggested to be under Groom Lake/Area 51   (John Lear credited this allegation to Bob Lazar, Lear’s good buddy)   and then Schneider, in turn, conveniently made himself a “protagonist” in a new fabricated tale  (changing the location to Dulce, New Mexico and the year to 1979)  since no one else had done it before.

Phil Schneider did not bring forward any new information, not already in circulation.

Schneider did put on a good show for any “newbie” to the Info.

He did tie together many aspects of the material.

He did correlate the data in a dramatic “story” format that flowed well.

He put a personal face on all the material and that was compelling.

Phil said “I got shot in the chest with one of the aliens’ weapons, which was a box on their body, that blew a hole in me and gave me a nasty dose of cobalt radiation.  I have had cancer because of that”.

Radioactive cobalt is used for commercial and medical purposes.  Exposure to high levels of cobalt can result in lung and heart effects and dermatitis.  Phil may have gotten his exposure to cobalt by undergoing radiation therapy treatment of deep-seated cancer.

But, there are no “Cobalt Weapons” except in “Flash Gordon” stories.

Later, Phil said “right now I am dying of cancer that I contracted because of my work for the federal government”.

Phil said he had a “Rhyolite-38” clearance factor – one of the highest in the world.

Rhyolite was a top-secret surveillance satellite system developed at TRW.   Rhyolite is referred in SIGINT (Signal Intelligence)  satellites.  Phil was not involved with this type of work.

No, he did not have a Rhyolite clearance.

No, Phil Schneider was nothing more than a narcissistic liar and fabricator.

But one thing Schneider succeeded was in staging his own “murder” as a last resort in order to relieve himself of physical pain and, at the same time, creating a legacy of immortal personality cult among many of the brainwashed, gullible folks who inhabit the world of Ufology.


Yes, this information  (Norio Hayakawa’s information)  agrees with what I found out from Phil’s brother and sister, and friends of Ron Rummel, and other friends of Phil’s.  Thank you for sharing.  It is so easy for information to circulate round and round on the internet.

It was back in the late 1990’s when I called Phil’s brother George on the phone who was working then at the Portland River Patrol and he had his sister, Polly send me a letter also.  The Schneider family came from Russia in the late 1800’s and were Jewish, and the family was deeply hurt when Phil lied and said his father was a German U-Boat commander during WWII, when in reality his father was a medical officer in the US Navy.  His uncle is an attorney in Portland.  I think I did this research in 1996, 22 years ago, so a whole new generation is now reading all this stuff that has taken on a life of it’s own.  Separating the BS from the truth is difficult, but well worth it.  Norio, we moved back to NJ in 2012.  Good to hear from you again.


From G. Clinton:

What I know about Phil Schneider:


“This morning in the state of boredom I decided to look up and see if I can find anything about people I used to know on Google.

Imagine my surprise to find that there was a cult of Phil Schneider who I knew very well in 1977 though 1980.

I moved to Portland, Oregon in 1977,  unemployed and very short on funds.  I moved into a very cheap rooming house

Shortly after I moved in,  Phil Schneider moved in.  It didn’t take me very long at all to realize that he was a liar.  And I thought he was mentally ill.

His missing fingers:

He told me that he had lost them when he was working in eastern Oregon as a lineman when he had some sort of mishap on a pole  (frankly I no longer recall the details; it has been nearly 40 years).

His chest wound:

I took him to the hospital.

One day as I was talking to other roomers in the common room, Phil came down the stairs with blood on his shirt saying he’d been shot.  A story he quickly changed to somehow being inflicted by a passing car having losing a snow stud which struck him in the chest causing the wounds.  No one present believed him, of course, but it was certainly not the time for discussions of his credibility.  I took him to the hospital.

After a short time one of the ER doctors came up to me and asked if I had any influence with Phil.  I said,”not really.”  The doctor said that they would like to keep him for a psych evaluation but had no grounds to do so.  I was asked to try to convince Phil to voluntarily submit.

At this point and having my own suspicions I said to the doctor, ” you suspect it’s self-inflicted?”  The doctor said, yes.

I did talk to Phil a little bit, of course he refused.

I wish I could remember which hospital in Portland it was.  Unfortunately I just don’t.  But there should be records.

This happened in possibly late 77 more likely 78 perhaps even early 79.

There is more I could talk about.  But none of it would be particularly germaine.

By the time I parted company with Phil, entirely, probably sometime in 1980, I was of the very solid opinion that Phil was disturbed and probably a danger to himself but not others   (I should note here that I’m completely unqualified in any clinical sense to say these things.)

Now I know that no one has any particular reason to give my testimony any credibility.

But, there it is.  I hope that this may help slightly for some people to be suspicious of anything he said.  I certainly was and am.

Phil Schneider was not a horrible person.  He was certainly at some level delusional.  He was for a short time a very flawed friend of mine.”


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Here is an interesting information provided by Chris White.  “There are newly released (via FOIA FBI) docs that show how Phil lost his fingers.  He cut the off himself while in a mental health facility“.:

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50 thoughts on “Phil Schneider’s Dulce base “delusions”

    • (a post from the Alien Casebook):

      “The numerous lies and fabrications of Phil Schneider’s are so multiple and so atrocious that they need to be explained away and this can simply be done looking at the dates and his age at time of death.
      Before I begin on Phil Schneider, something else more recent has come to my attention that needs dismissing right off the bat.
      These are the kinds of things that keep conspiracy theories (including Phil’s) active and are just more lies piled up on the old ones.
      There is a website called Phil Schneider Memorial.
      They’re actually calling it a website for a murdered patriot.
      If Phil Schneider is a patriot of anything, he’s a patriot of disinformation.
      What this particular individual did who started this website after Phil’s death is re-promoting the old Alien Digests who were assembled by another man named Ron Rummel.
      Mr. Rummel committed suicide by placing a gun in his mouth.
      Once again, they’re calling it murder.
      At the top of the website it even states this here below.
      Phil Schneider’s best friend Ron Rummel published these periodicals until he was murdered on August 6, 1993.
      Ron Rummel, the (again supposed – no proof of such) ex-air force intelligence agent who published Alien Digest, shot himself in the mouth with a pistol on August 6, 1993.
      I could go full circle and show you how Phil Schneider was already wrapped up in the work of Ron Rummel in the 1990’s that led to his lie riddled speeches.
      This would also show you more works of fiction that are printed as fact throughout the Internet such as the three volume series of The Universal Seduction Book, edited by Rev. Robert Hanzel, of the Aquarian Church of Universal Service, which nobody but Mr. Hanzel benefited from.
      Everything ended up in books after books after books from offshoots of the Aquarian Church.
      Because that whole batch of conspiracies, which also include Robert Hanzel, Paul Shockley and an individual named Creston (who is actually Ron Rummel) I’m going to cut to the quick.
      After doing so, only then I’ll go into the depth of why Phil Schneider’s words (EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM) need to be dismissed and removed from the realm of a conspiracy theory since they were nothing more then lies.
      One last thing I will mention is that all of the individuals above all live or work in McMinnville, Oregon.
      Just a little too coincidental for this me.
      McMinnville, Oregon is home to the famous Trent sighting.
      This I’ll talk about as well since this UFO story from the 1950’s, which is the platform that most UFO trekies lean on, especially if they live in Oregon.
      Even that UFO has been debunked many times.
      Cutting to the quick
      Phil Schneider was nothing more than a narcissistic liar and fabricator.
      The proof of Schneider’s lies is in the math.
      Take Phil’s age and his time on various jobs he claimed to do, certainly try and consider time at college for his supposed degrees, which never existed anyway so scratch the college time and you’ll see that he would have been 17 years old when he went to work for the government. Phil stated that he worked at Dulce in 1979.”


      • from a post in the Internet (Alien Casebook):

        “Phil Schneider was nothing more than a narcissistic liar and fabricator.
        The proof of Schneider’s lies is in the math.
        Take Phil’s age and his time on various jobs he claimed to do, certainly try and consider time at college for his supposed degrees, which never existed anyway so scratch the college time and you’ll see that he would have been 17 years old when he went to work for the government.
        Phil stated that he worked at Dulce in 1979.
        1979 – worked at Dulce
        1947 – born
        32 – Phils age while at Dulce
        1981 – Last job
        1947 – born
        34 – Age when Phil ceased working (went on SSI)
        17 – Years Phil claimed he worked in government

        17 – How old he would have been when he went to work in the government.
        Where are his college years in those 17 years?
        There aren’t any however he claimed to be an Aerospace Engineer, Structural Engineer, Geological Engineer. Schneider is a mockery to the UFO Community.
        Just listen to that 1995 YouTube of Phil’s speech and see for yourself that he doesn’t have a clue and dances around all over the place re-instilling old conspiracies of which half don’t even exist and were the fabrications of others like William Cooper, etc.
        Phil simply worked for the Army Corp of Engineers and nothing more.
        This information is available through Social Security records as is everything else about Phil Schneider.
        The key here though is why didn’t Phil ever say the words, “ARMY CORP OF ENGINEERS” in any of his speeches?
        Because he was hiding the truth amongst his many, many lies.
        Phil died by his own hands.
        If anything, that rubber hose around his neck (which wasn’t a wire by the way) was put there by himself letting people think he was murdered because he was dying anyway and he knew it.
        Schneider never let ANYONE ever see any of the supposed multi-thousand page government documents because they never existed.
        Instead, he went out in what was to look like a suicide so people would think differently.
        People like Schneider is what keeps the UFO Community from going forward.
        They make it look just a bit too kooky so NOBODY LISTENS to the truth when it is stated.
        We don’t need these lies.
        One would think that after 31 previous speeches that he would have had his spiel down pat.
        However, it’s as wishy washy as the rest of the speeches.
        It makes little to no sense and he bounces around like a rubber ball in a multitude of directions with really no substance on any one topic.”


      • Does anyone have access to any other speeches other than the YouTube ones? Even audio only?
        Let me know for I’m doing my own homework on phil.


      • A lot of people joined the military at the age of 16 & 17 back then. All of these educated people who are spreading the word keep dying unexpectedly as they mysteriously become suicidal……….yeah, not buying it. It’s some big coincidence.


  1. Thanks, Nick, for your comment. Just because I have presented this article does not prove that there is nothing in Dulce. I have stated time and time again that there COULD be “something” in Dulce. What that “something” is I still do not know. It’s possible that at one time there could have been an off-site CIA operation on the north slope of Mt. Archuleta (on the Colorado side) involving some tests of some type of CIA aircraft, as Greg Valdez suggested. I simply do not associate Phil Schneider having anything to do with Dulce.


    • The suggestion that he was murdered came from him…he had claimed in every speech that he would die and it would be ruled suicide. Yet he would claim that he had no intention of ending his own life since he needed to “get the message out.” So there is serious dissonance there.


  2. Thanks for your comment. Most of my postings are based on my conviction that there has yet to be a definite, tangible, physical as well as irrefutable documentary evidence that we have ever been visited by physical aliens in physical spacecraft of any kind.


    • Fair enough, however the thing that makes me angry is quite the same when applied to a person being accused of insanity and lying, where is the “definite, tangible, physical as well as irrefutable documentary evidence” Mr. Schneider was a liar? How do we know officer Valdez says the truth either?! Even if a dozen of army/police officers say so it is not in any way … reliable, to me at least.

      My point, the most awful thing is slandering a man who dared to confront powerful and unforgiving entities, I mean, secret agencies and what not, oh, and … supposedly deadly aliens.

      And Mr. Hayakawa, my wish was you to rethink the “solidity” of “evidences”, there is possibility you to be mislead by disinfo, nothing to fear, but when a human being is accused this is damn serious – his whole life/name and hopes are degraded. See, believing in someone’s lies is not so bad – (A PASSIVE mistake), but accusing someone lying has the potential the accusator to be wrong – (AN ACTIVE mistake), *then the nonour of the latter goes out of the window*.

      And on aliens note, let me share a bit of true info, again, who knows whether I lie! Anyway, one very respected by me person (from Russia) told me that after MANY debriefings (done after completed missions) of Russian cosmonauts they described being harassed by UE (Unidentified Entities) within the space modules with quite a diverse range of anomalies and “tests”. She was an internal, along with a general (married to a relative of hers), in Baikonur space-launching-site. I mention this because no one (except a small group) will care or believe, but guess so, it doesn’t matter since truthful things need no proving – this is a LAW! Yet in our world where disinformation is at each step and GOOD WILL is lacking, people want proofs and genuine documents.


  3. richard doty (AFOSI spook and disinformation agent) also copped to making up the whole thing about the Dulce base when he was fucking with Paul Bennewitz and lying to him, feeding him lines about how aliens were going to invade and were working with the US gov’t (see the documentary Mirage Men where doty admits to all of this as well as other lies he made up). Exactly the kind of stuff that Phil Schneider was saying (and that I think Bob Lazar said, too, although I don’t know as much about him). I also think that Schneider is mentally unbalanced – I’m not a clinical psychologist or psychiatrist, but I have taken some courses in abnormal psychology and diagnosis and have considerable working knowledge of what mental illnesses look like – and something about Phil’s demeanour looked to me, at least, like someone in a manic state, or perhaps narcissistic fantasy – his story involving him being the guy who killed aliens and being the first guy to see the aliens underground – smacks of the kind of egotism that is stereotypical of this kind of disordered thinking. as does the paranoia that he espouses. I know that some people’s hackles will be raised by mentioning psychiatry – and I admit it definitely has its flaws (Ian Hacking’s looping effect comes to mind – whereby the discourse that comes out of the practice of psychiatry helps to shape or construct the disorders it purports to treat (stuff like this is why I ultimately decided not to pursue it further)) I do think it can still point to something real, some of the time, and I think this might be one of those times.

    tl; dr – it’s quite possible, and I would argue likely, that richard doty is the source of this whole thing about the underground alien base in Dulce (again, see the documentary Mirage Men where he admits to making up this lie and other lies)


  4. also, to add to my previous comment (and in reply to this claim that Phil had both thumbs still)…yes, Phil definitely *did* cut off his thumb. the thing is, he didn’t cut it all the way off, just the first part of it. if you go to this video: and pause it at 41:56 you can clearly see that he has some thumb, but he is also definitely missing some of it.

    it isn’t exactly hard to see his hand if you just watch the video…so it would be a pretty stupid lie to say that his thumb was missing if it wasn’t, given the fact that his videos have been posted all over the internet (the one I linked to has over 450,000 views, so a lot of people have seen it…)


  5. […] By the way,there are tens of thousands of folks who have to rely on Social Security Supplementary Security Income (SSI), for various legitimate reasons, including those with mental illnesses or those who have become mentally ill. It’s a sad situation. But it’s the reality. Phil Schneider was one of them: […]


  6. Just because I wrote a forward to Anthony Sanchez’s fascinating book, UFO HIGHWAY, does not mean that I believe everything in that book. As I clearly stated in the forward, there is not a single, physical, tangible as well as irrefutable documentary evidence whatsoever that there is a physical underground base in or near Dulce.
    Please read the forward to that book.
    Despite that, I believe the book is worthy of reading from a psychological point of view since it is about beliefs and how beliefs could affect some people.
    As far as the alleged colonel is concerned, likewise, as far as I am concerned, there is no credible, irrefutable documentary evidence whatsoever.


  7. Just came across your excellent site while watching the History Channel which mentioned Schneider in glowing, awe struck terms. While researching it, I found you.

    The public and UFO researchers in general, go into this business with the prejudicial attitude, that because the universe is so vast, there must surely be some aliens visiting the Earth, etc. so as long as the “cases” mesh with their beliefs, it must be true.

    Keep up the great work. Looking forward to going over your articles in more detail.


  8. Fair is fair. I tend to be highly skeptical about anything published concerned with UFO’s or aliens. Precisely because there are so many kooks and crazies out there angling for publicity. But “skewing” an article, while standard in the world of journalism, offends me. As a journalist, every contract I ever had gave me the right to “opt out” of an assignment which I felt I could not cover dispassionately.

    You portray Cynthia Dryer as the purveyor of a lot of misinformation as well as a scrounger for money. You also bring up the issue of “piano wire” which she never claimed. She also mentioned psychics only as an afterthought in her statement. Never giving them undue weight. Here is her quite credible report. Which also should be included in a fair weighing and balancing of this story

    For me as a journalist, I would have grabbed on to the issue of his mutilated hand … and tracked it down like a bloodhound. As far as I can see .. that hand and the scars on his chest are the only verifiable clues we have to the whole incident. That’s where the pressure should have been applied.

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  9. What a lot of people fail to realize is, UFO simply means Unidentified Flying Object; it doesn’t mean an alien space ship. While I believe that this vast and uncharted universe contains many systems that support life, both advanced of us and behind us, doesn’t mean that every light that flits across the sky is an alien craft visiting us.


  10. Two claims that made me very skeptical were a) Being an engineer being lowered into a drilled hole and engaging a “large grey” alien in a shootout with a handgun. How wide was this hole to begin with? If the army is sufficiently concerned to have troops around the drill site, why weren’t they lowered in the hole 1st? Why is an engineer carrying a gun? Why is the government taken by surprise in drilling into a alien den? If you are an alien with superior intelligence why establish your base near or under a DUMB? Why hide underground at all?

    b) Phil makes reference to professional fraudster Billy Meier, he who claimed to have been taken on alien ships, went to distant galaxies and even took photos. Problem is that Billy’s photos were taken from NASA videos and dinosaur books. Schneider’s identifying with Meier seriously detracts from his potential legitimacy, in my opinion.


  11. I came here because my instincts said ” at least look into the possibility of a hoax, do not fall for every fascinating story no matter how convincing they may appear, and his story rang of truth and i was convinced at first, but those damn instincts! I believe we owe it to ourselfs to investigate both sides, another one was Al Beilik, he is VERY convincing…BUT, i gotta look into the possibility that he is a fraud, thats my next story to look at the other side of the coin, what a bummer, these guys really had me going, is there anything out there worth reading that isnt bullshit? Im interested to hear it cause i have spent years searching and so far it all seems like a bunch of fiction, interesting, but fiction.

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    • Thanks so much, John, for coming to this site.
      I am so glad that you came to the understanding that not every fascinating and true-sounding story is a fact.
      There are so many in this field that are totally misguided and become gullible.
      No matter how one takes the claims of Phil Schneider, there is not a single credible, physical, tangible as well as documentary evidence whatsoever that the Dulce base exists.
      It’s all pure imagination.
      Without any solid proof of the existence of the Dulce base, everything else easily falls apart, and they do.
      Without the Dulce base, there is no Phil Schneider’s value.
      The same with Al Bielek.
      No matter how sincere his claims are, without any solid, credible, tangible evidence, everything he says just remains another story,
      But I am so glad you realized this.


  12. Do not believe this for a second, Phil was telling the truth. The fact that this much effort was put forth to discredit him (20 years later) raises suspicion. This is a US government backed smear campaign because they fear the truth is spreading. Think about it, you call for proof of the Dulce base, but why would the government leave any? They rendered that base a failure and a liability, like they’re just going to keep it functioning and in public view like some old gas run-down gas station? Please. That’s not how any of these bases work, you can’t just go out with a pair of binoculars and a flashlight and try to find one. Trust me, they keep those bases locked down so tight you aren’t coming within 10 miles of the entrance without being confronted or redirected, most likely dealt with accordingly as they see fit.

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  13. Anything is possible.
    All governments have things to hide.
    l don’t know the truth of Phil Schneider’s claims but they could very well be true.
    l DO know that Unidentified craft exist because l have seen one.
    And l am sure that it never came from this world.
    We could never build anything so huge.
    At the same time, l understand the Skeptics, for there are many liars out there.
    Keep an open mind.


    • Thanks for your comment, Michael.
      Yes, anything is possible in this mysterious world we are living in.
      I also believe that we do not yet have technology to build an absolute silent craft 3 or 4 times the size of a football field. Yet, in the past, such things have been reported.
      To me, if they exist, they are not ours.
      As far as Phil Schneider is concerned, everything rests on whether the Dulce base physically exists or not.
      I haven’t been able to verify its physical existence there. I have been to Dulce countless number of times since it is only a 3 hour drive from where I live.
      I keep trying.


  14. I worked as an orderly at a psych hospital in the late 80s and Phil was a frequent flyer. Anyone taking that looney toon seriously is just as nuts as he was.

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  15. Anyone who really, actually, believes that the U.S. government can effectively cover anything up on the scale of the “Dulce Base Event” has never worked for the government itself, at least in DoD or the various services. Civilian-contracted things, perhaps, but only to a certain degree. The oft-cited Murphy’s Law sums up the situation quite well. It is true, however, that select canards are always delicately released to the public with certain motives in mind that most would feel dismayed by, but please do keep in mind that the three-letter agency that is referred to quite frequently has no officially-approved domestic mandate. Anything would bring it into conflict with various agencies, such as the FBI, and they do not tolerate anyone muscling in into their territory.

    As for 17-years-old enlisting, quite possible in WW II, less so until the Korean Police Action, really less so later with an island of opportunity at certain points of the Vietnam War. It would also be relevant to keep in mind that after the establishment of the U.S.A.F. in 1947, it became really difficult for non-college-educated individuals to receive higher clearance or positions of authority in any branch of service whatsoever. Not to say impossible, but highly unlikely.

    That being said, there are always possibilities…………….

    One thing: Operation Crossroads was headed mainly by the Navy, with really nominal assistance from the Army aside from the aircraft and ordinance people. General Stillwell, in charge of the 6th Army based at the Presidio in San Francisco, was already ill with the cancer that would result in his demise in late 1946. One would expect that if a US Army commander were to be in charge of something like Operation Crossroads, it would be the individual commanding Fort Shafter in Hawaii, the headquarters of the US Army Forces, Middle Pacific, from 1945 to 1947.

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  16. I always approve of those that write news articles , that appear to understand “Consider the source” , and “follow the money.” Without some effort being undertaken with both , it is difficult for me to take an article seriously, especially a topic that is “fringe” to begin with. I , though not professional , am an excellent , researcher. I have interests that are often about subjects people resist believing , or accepting , due to consequences that would result in an outcome , or outcomes , that are unfavorable , or counter to religious beliefs or spiritual disciplines.


    • If there is no such a thing as a Dulce base, then Phil Schneider’s unsubstantiated claims will totally fall apart. So far, the existence of the Dulce base is pure fiction.
      No Dulce base, no Phil Schneider. He will only be vindicated if the Dulce base exists. Sorry, that’s the bottom line, no matter what.


  17. The bottom line to all this is simply the fact that there has never been any credible, tangible physical as well as documentary evidence whatsoever that the Dulce base physically exists. If there is no evidence of the existence of the base, there is no point at all in even discussing the claims of Phil Schneider. Period.


  18. phils correspondence was at some points put forth a little strong to keep attention focused. alot of people worked for the government with minor or no degrees back then, if you could prove you could do the job an yer price was right no problem. government coverups are constant, i believe he was set for termination for his knowledge of black ops and financial info rather than the alien portion of his lectures. dulce war is a wonder/ it could have been one of the first attempts to terminate him. maybe all of his lectures were a bit extreme but in essence true as he experienced everything,,,


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